A Conversation with President Obama

Rolling Stone: The Day After: Obama on His Legacy, Trump’s Win and the Path Forward.

“In an interview conducted the day after the election, the commander in chief reflected on the stunning results and how he’ll spend his time post-White House.” By Jann S. Wenner. November 29th, 2016.

“And one of the things that I have been telling my younger staff, who in some cases have only known politics through my presidency, is history doesn’t travel in a straight line. And it zigs and it zags and sometimes you take two steps forward and then you take a step back.

[…]

There’s no benefit that’s derived from pulling into a fetal position. We go out there, and we work. And we slog through challenges, and over time things get better.”